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 02/05/2008, 5:26 PM
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Boro in the Bar
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Re: Westley appointed as new manager - Your thoughts
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Be careful what you wish for, I txt a friend of mine about the appointment and got a very shocking reply, 1 I had not even contemplated, this may be a set up for Mr Wallace to sell out to a certain Mr Westley.
In response to other points, I feel the same as a few others on here about attending next season, but am sure that when football finally returns to BHW I'm sure I will be there watching
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02/05/2008, 6:15 PM
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jml sbfc
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while i'm not impressed with westley being back i'm willing to give him another chance and hopefully he has changed (i know some people will say a leopard cannot change it's spots) but we need to get behind the team if we want to get up in the league
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02/05/2008, 7:55 PM
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lopo
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"shocking appointment"
It didn't shock me at all!
I support Stevenage Borough FC the manager works for the club and whoever he appoints i'm gonna stick by because thats what real supporters do.
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02/05/2008, 8:53 PM
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East Terrace Phil
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Re: Westley appointed as new manager - Your thoughts
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Personally I never had faith in Peter Taylor as a suitable replacement for Stimmo. I think it was always a little bit...or rather a fairly large bit suspicious that having been sacked by a Championship club (which has rocketed straight into the play-off places since he left) the only people that would take him on was a team three divisions below...in the Conference. To go from near the top of Football League to come crashing down to the top of Non-League in consecutive jobs, doesn't that speak volumes about the sort of manager Taylor was.
Now as far as Graham Westley is concerned, personally in the three and a quarter years he was with us previously I found that we had one of the best squads in recent years, and it was geared towards success at this level of football. We also got great results, generally week-after-week which hasn't happened under Stimson or Taylor...at least not as much and we were far more consistent back in the last Westley era for that matter.
I don't think there are many managers around that are currently available that could tick as many boxes as Westley does. Extensive knowledge of the BSP league/Conference and experience with a fair share of success in Non-League football in general during recent years, the style of football we played under GW was a thousand times better than that which we were subjected to under Peter Taylor...for that matter I don't think there can be any disagreement, validly.
Let's not forget that last time around Westley signed up for the job at Boro with a very clear and abundant three-year plan, in which the top and bottom line was simply to get us into the Football League. He stayed for slightly over three years (which is more than he originally set out to do!) and only three years ago we got to the play-off final against Carlisle United. Westley's Boro side managed to better Carlisle that season in BOTH league meetings, only to narrowly lose out third time around when it counted. In principle, he's been the most successful manager at our club since Paul Fairclough left, Stimson might have won us a cup but GW got nearer to promotion than any of our recent managers. Look at Carlisle now, straight up through League 2 and at the top of League 1 looking very likely to get promoted to the Championship. That could very well have been us, had we got the right result on that fateful day back in 2005.
I think Westley will be much better for us than Taylor, that much I am sure of, and with his extensive knowledge and experience of Non-League football, better tactical knowledge and know-how of what it takes to be successful at this level and examples in the way he kept Rushden in the Conference when he took over, I think that overall Westley is probably the best manager we could have brought in at the moment.
As supporters of this wonderful football club, our responsibility from now on, over the summer and throughout next season is to try and put personal feelings to the back of our minds as best as we can and get behind Westley and the Boro Boys...they need our support, our noise on the terraces, we need to all come together as a fan base and become that famously talked about '12th man'.
Come on Boro!!
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02/05/2008, 9:09 PM
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Pedro
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There are some suppoorters who would support the team if Saddam Hussain were to be appointed as manager. Personally I find it quite ridiculous to appoint someone most supporters tried hard to get rid of because he was an embarrassment. So he has changed greatly since leaving Boro! Really? In two years he's had a job for three months and then sacked, and lasted even less time at Kettering. It's like re-marrying your ex-wife who was a complete nightmare. What's happened to respect, proven ability, management skills, technical skills??? I'm sickened and like many others, I'm off.
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02/05/2008, 9:38 PM
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vince66
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Lets take the positives,Westley knows the club and the Division and with a quick decision made he can get his squad in place
in plenty of time to get the season off to a fast start.The Taylor era was a PR exercise that didn't pay off and best forgotten,
and although everyone has the right to their opinion I agree that if you really support the club you'll turn up come what may.
And the real GOOD news of the week, MORO to stay and JUNIOR LEWIS leaving.
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02/05/2008, 11:24 PM
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rick barton
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Like all Boro fans we now Phil Wallace has the best intentions and shares the same desire in getting us promoted.
I just dont think he understands the animosity towards Westley.
Question: name any manager disliked by the fans that has brought success?
The fact is in the past the fans have helped get rid of unwanted managers such as Wayne Turner. At the first sign of things going wrong the fans will ask for his head on a plate.
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02/05/2008, 11:48 PM
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pagemaster
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People are right in saying that fans go to watch the club no matter who manages it. Could you imagine Chelsea's ground half-full because they didn't like Avram Grant?
But with a smaller potential audience it matters who manages the team. People will stay away. A cut of 2-300 in the average gate at Borough would completely upset the books and thus undermine the financial clout Boro would need to not only become a League club - but to stay one.
Say what you like about Victor Green but, under his chairmanship, Boro regularly had gates of 3,000 (possibly more if you believed some apocryphal tales of 'under-estimating' those who had gone through the turnstiles).
Boro have loyal hardcore of about 1200 fans. During the years of 3000 gates, it follows that many waverers were attracted by what they saw at Boro - the buzz, the feeling of a club on the up. Hell, they didn't even have a nice stadium to spend their 2 hours in once a fortnight or so. I've even stood on a bread crate there for a better view.
I believe the Green was a very clever manipulator of publicity that built a Boro 'phenomenon' that became self-fulfilling. It was punctured only by lack of success on the field. The irony is that Boro of late have been as successful as ever (FA Trophy, play-offs) and yet average gates are down to less than half the figure they were during the Green years.
It can be no coincidence that the current chairman has all the PR skills of a herring.
This latest managerial appointment has underlined this. Boro fans will stay away. Don't doubt it.
And that will undermine all Wallace's fine words about promotion. It beggars belief that the man just doesn't get it. Wallace and Westley? Boro would be better off with Wallace and Grommit.
Time for walkies, methinks.
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03/05/2008, 2:02 AM
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Loyal Fan
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 pagemaster wrote: | People are right in saying that fans go to watch the club no matter who manages it. Could you imagine Chelsea's ground half-full because they didn't like Avram Grant?
But with a smaller potential audience it matters who manages the team. People will stay away. A cut of 2-300 in the average gate at Borough would completely upset the books and thus undermine the financial clout Boro would need to not only become a League club - but to stay one.
Say what you like about Victor Green but, under his chairmanship, Boro regularly had gates of 3,000 (possibly more if you believed some apocryphal tales of 'under-estimating' those who had gone through the turnstiles).
Boro have loyal hardcore of about 1200 fans. During the years of 3000 gates, it follows that many waverers were attracted by what they saw at Boro - the buzz, the feeling of a club on the up. Hell, they didn't even have a nice stadium to spend their 2 hours in once a fortnight or so. I've even stood on a bread crate there for a better view.
I believe the Green was a very clever manipulator of publicity that built a Boro 'phenomenon' that became self-fulfilling. It was punctured only by lack of success on the field. The irony is that Boro of late have been as successful as ever (FA Trophy, play-offs) and yet average gates are down to less than half the figure they were during the Green years.
It can be no coincidence that the current chairman has all the PR skills of a herring.
This latest managerial appointment has underlined this. Boro fans will stay away. Don't doubt it.
And that will undermine all Wallace's fine words about promotion. It beggars belief that the man just doesn't get it. Wallace and Westley? Boro would be better off with Wallace and Grommit.
Time for walkies, methinks.
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Doesn't matter - Mr Westleys millions will cover the loss. It won't matter how many so-called fans leave the club, Mr Westley will be able to pump more money in. I'm glad we have a manager who is willing and able to back his actions with his own pocket. Even if half the fans leave the club will be better off.
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04/05/2008, 7:57 AM
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greaser
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| Pedro wrote: | | There are some suppoorters who would support the team if Saddam Hussain were to be appointed as manager. Personally I find it quite ridiculous to appoint someone most supporters tried hard to get rid of because he was an embarrassment. So he has changed greatly since leaving Boro! Really? In two years he's had a job for three months and then sacked, and lasted even less time at Kettering. It's like re-marrying your ex-wife who was a complete nightmare. What's happened to respect, proven ability, management skills, technical skills??? I'm sickened and like many others, I'm off. |
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Saddam Hussain eh ?
If he was to be manager , I think I'd turn up to watch 'boro
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07/05/2008, 12:38 PM
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Dicky
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Dear Loyal,
Are you Westley in disguise. Whats your fascination with HIS money?
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